12 - Regenerative Medicine & Non-Surgical Orthopedics in Asheville with Dr. James Pinkston

Regenerative Healing & Non-Surgical Orthopedics with Dr. James Pinkston

In this episode of the Wellness in Asheville Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. James Pinkston, founder of Asheville Non-Surgical Orthopedics & Regenerative Medicine. Dr. Pinkston is a board-certified osteopathic physician specializing in neuromusculoskeletal medicine. He’s known for helping patients overcome pain and regain mobility using advanced techniques like PRP, stem cell therapy, hydrodissection, and shockwave therapy—without surgery. We dive into his holistic philosophy on healing, why conservative care matters, and how team-based, hands-on approaches are changing the future of pain relief in Asheville.

Key Takeaways
– Exploring the science and promise of regenerative medicine: how PRP, stem cell therapy, and hydrodissection support the body’s natural repair process.
– Pain isn’t just about damaged tissue—why function, lifestyle, and mindset are crucial to healing.
– Movement as medicine: why strength training and physical therapy are foundational for long-term mobility and resilience.
– The future of non-surgical orthopedics, patient-centered care, and why more people are seeking natural and advanced alternatives.
– Dr. Pinkston’s approach: thorough listening, conservative interventions, personalized plans, and collaboration with physical and functional medicine pros.

Timestamps
00:00 – 03:00 | Dr. Pinkston’s journey: from athletic trainer to regenerative medicine pioneer
03:00 – 10:00 | What is neuromusculoskeletal medicine? Hands-on assessment, manual therapy, and osteopathic perspective
10:00 – 16:00 | Game-changing treatments: hydrodissection, PRP, and stem cell therapy explained
16:00 – 22:00 | Holistic team care: integrating PT, functional medicine, and lifestyle change for better outcomes
22:00 – 26:00 | What patients really need: being heard, taking the time, and conservative care before surgery
26:00 – End | Practical advice on movement, pain, healing, and patient empowerment

Episode Links
Asheville Non-Surgical Orthopedics & Regenerative Medicine – Dr. James Pinkston
What is PRP? Platelet Rich Plasma Therapy Information
More About Regenerative Medicine Approaches
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Transcript

Dr. James Pinkston - Full Audio

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Speaker: Welcome to the Wellness in Asheville Podcast, where we shine a light on the people practices, and places that make this city one of the most inspiring wellness communities in the country. I'm your host, Travis Richardson, founder of Be Well Asheville, your local news source for health, wellness, and community events.

Travis: In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. James Pinkston, founder of Asheville non-surgical orthopedics and regenerative medicine, known for his innovative use of PRP stem cell therapy, shockwave therapy, and other non. Surgical approaches. Dr. Pinkston helps people heal naturally and stay active without going under the knife.

Dr. James Pinkston is a board certified osteopathic physician specializing in neuro musculoskeletal medicine with a clinical focus on non-surgical treatment of pain [00:01:00] and functional disorders. He founded Asheville non-surgical orthopedics in 2020 to provide a whole body approach to regenerative medicine and wellness, integrating osteopathic care, injection therapies, and advanced technologies to support the body's natural healing processes.

Now, in fact, I'm a patient and I actually send people to him all the time for musculoskeletal issues that can't be resolved with less of an invasive techniques like massage, stretching, physical therapy, or even chiropractic in some cases. In this episode, I'm gonna be discussing some of his offerings like PRP, also known as platelet rich plasma injections, hydro dissection.

Which helped me a lot with my pinched nerve and neuropathy and some other things. Well, let's just uh, say that I'm a huge fan of Dr. Pinkston and I think he's actually the hidden gem in Asheville, especially if you have anything like pain, uh, like I do sometimes.

[00:02:00] So we're gonna explore how his work integrates the best of science and holistic healing. And you're also gonna find out why I think he's such an amazing person, uh, partly or mostly because he is such an great listener. Uh, by the way, if you're gonna listen to the end, you'll be given a really great freebie.

So without further ado, let's dive right in.

Speaker 6: Dr. Pinkston, how are you doing today? Can't complain, 

Speaker 7: Travis, how are you? 

Speaker 6: Ah, really good actually. Uh, my neck is, my neck is feeling, is feeling really good. And as you know, you've, you've worked on me. That's been a, a problem point for me and. Actually, I just, one, one of the reasons I'm really excited to have you on today as a, as a guest, because I think, you know, for me, pain has, I've had a long history with pain and so have a lot of the listeners and, um, you know, being pain-free and sort of having good mobility is really, really important.

So I'm really, I'm really excited to, to talk about this with you today. [00:03:00] 

Speaker 7: Looking forward to it myself. 

Speaker 6: Yeah, so like, I mean, just, just I wanted to share a a bit about my, uh, my story with you. You know, I came in to see you and I, I was having neck issues. My history with martial arts goes way back and I've had a couple neck injuries when I was younger and never really took care of them.

And before that, watched my dad struggle with back pain for, you know, 30, 40 years. And I always thought, you know, this is just, you know, what guys do, we just sort of, um, you know, push through the pain. Until it got to be too much. And, you know, I saw you and got some really good results. We, we did the manual therapy and uh, then we did, uh, hydro dissection, which I can't wait to get into to talk about that.

And then even platelet rich plasma injections, we'll talk about that as well. Um, before we discussed those, those topics, I'm just sort of curious if you could tell us a little bit about your. Your background. I know we talked about it before, but how you got into regenerative [00:04:00] medicine. 

Speaker 7: It's a hard decision.

Figuring out what you wanna do for the rest of your life. And I'll, I'll have to admit that a fair portion of my journey I really didn't know in the beginning as a young high school athlete, enjoyed the weight room, uh, grew up with the action figures of the time. I thought that, okay, maybe I might like to do something with anatomy, which led me towards exercise science and eventually athletic training.

So taking care of the athletes on the sidelines, prepping them for games to go that one step farther. And, uh, that was when I learned about osteopaths at, at that time, I had never heard the word. I thought, well, a doctor is an md, but actually there's DS as well. And uh, one of my teachers there, the director of the [00:05:00] athletic training program, told me a really wonderful story about their son going to their pediatrician and having a physical exam where the doctor looked at the joints and then announced your son's about to have a growth spurt.

And they did. They could just tell. Hands on. And that was intriguing, almost magical and, and wizard like. And, and I thought that this is something that appeals to me in taking care of people, working with your hands, learning to treat and diagnose in a way that often isn't done. We've lost a little bit of the maybe, uh, formal physical exam and touch in medicine.

So I've decided to pursue that just. Osteopathy in general, and, uh, still wasn't sure which branch of medicine to go into. And, uh, I eventually decided that [00:06:00] the, the mind was interesting. I, I try psychiatry, but quickly learned that that wasn't actually my area of interest. And that psychology was really more along my, uh, ends of thinking.

And then, uh, the mind really. Rather than what, what turned out to be mostly medication based management. So after reevaluating old fashions, I kind of came back to musculoskeletal and, uh, I was lucky enough to find an opening in what's called neuro musculoskeletal medicine. That's the technical team, technical name for my, uh, my residency program.

End. That turned out to be the, the perfect change in direction for me. You know, I had a really excellent mentor who guided me to develop what is now my [00:07:00] practice today. You know, he was also a, uh, a business owner who offered these types of treatments, uh, regenerative medicine. They also did ultrasound guided injections.

They also did regular insurance based care. So I had the contrast there. I saw the typical orthopedic, or in this case, non-surgical orthopedic care of mostly steroid injections and physical therapy, which is helpful, but to a point. And then I saw the regenerative medicine side of things and, um, that, that helped me decide what to do.

A point of encouragement that yes, you can own your own practice and do your own thing. And, uh, that kind of formalized my decision and I just had to figure out where to end up in the country. 

Speaker 6: Well, it's a, I mean, it's a really [00:08:00] needed specialization that you provide. Uh, I mean, I don't have to tell you, you see.

Tons of people coming in, I'm sure probably even younger and younger with all kinds of musculoskeletal issues. I mean, I remember reading something about, uh, the average, uh, teenagers forward, he head tilt being like some number of degrees worse than, you know, 10 years prior, you know, because of the use of cell phones and, and, and other things.

Uh, and. You know, for me it's been a real game changer working with you because I've, I've, I've told so many people about hydro dissection in which I still like saying that name. I think it's a really cool name, uh, the hydro dissection that I had with you, because it really illustrates the amazing power of this.

I mean, and just to describe it for the audience, uh, the, the procedure was, was amazing. I'm watching here, I'm laying on my [00:09:00] stomach. I'm watching the ultrasound of the procedure being done. You're like, here's your nerve and here's how I'm separating it from the tissue. That was essentially causing the, what you would consider the pinch or the compression.

And once the procedure was over, I'm like, oh my God. I like, it's gone. I'm like, I literally, it literally worked immediately. It was incredible. 

Speaker 7: Yeah, hydro dissection iss a really terrific tool. If you have the appropriate, uh, imaging capabilities, which really has to be ultrasound, to be able to see soft tissue and the nerves, because there's, there's a lot of pain that is simply nerve entrapment.

Uh, something putting excessive pressure on the nerve. Sometimes it, it might be a bone or disc when it's the spine, but once you get away from the spine, a lot of times it's just muscle, just connective tissue. And if you can get a needle down or guide a needle [00:10:00] down to that point and inject some fluid around it, then you, you give it some breathing arm, so to speak.

You push the tissue away, you get rid of the entrapment. Also, the solution, which is usually a, a diluted, diluted sugar solution, it, it helps calm the nerve down so it stops excessive firing, and it can also block. What are loops of, uh, pain and muscle spasm and pain leading to more muscle spasm and, and you can break those cycles and altogether it, it, it works pretty well.

And if you get it right, you can even get instant relief that that doesn't come back. Sometimes it does and you might need to do a little bit warm, but it's, it's an excellent alternative to. Something like a steroid injection or a lot of people with issues in [00:11:00] their peripheral nerves, that would really mean away from the spine end up going just through treatment for the spine.

The nerve roots, epidurals, and at leads to a lot of frustration 'cause they don't get better and they wonder why. But really it's just because the problem is elsewhere. 

Speaker 6: How do you see the other. Modalities that are available to folks working like in conjunction with what you do? 

Speaker 7: Uh, I, I think it's pretty important to have a, uh, what I guess I would call a, a team approach.

Usually there isn't just some isolated problem. You take care of it and it's gone forever. Usually need to evaluate, well, why was that there in the first place? And there are, are there some factors that are causing it to linger around? So I am constantly working hand in hand with physical therapy to work on posture and strengthening, you know, [00:12:00] deficits that could be corrected.

And also I bring in, um, people who specialize in what's now being called lifestyle medicine. Just healthy habits, sleep, food, drink, keeping stress low, socializing. And functional medicine when people need to dive a little bit deeper into other non musculoskeletal medical conditions that could be contributing or, you know, may just be, uh, coincidentally causing other issues in their life.

So is definitely not just me. I like to help people, but I also get a lot of helping hands along the way with the, the specialists that I've found. In as, 

Speaker 6: what would you say, uh, is the most inspiring story of healing that you've had in your practice? What do you feel like has really been like, oh my gosh, that was even better than I thought it was gonna be?

Speaker 7: You do get some home runs like that, [00:13:00] um, where you, you may be expecting modest improvement and it can just be a amazing, it's just the one thing that they needed. And, uh. Hydro dissection does turn out to be that way sometimes. Um, I, I've had a number of people that they, they really couldn't do much of anything that involves straining.

You know, they, they're very active. They, they love to work out, but they can't because anytime they strain it, it creates these issues and, uh, you know, taking care of something, which to me seems very simple. And you, you expect potentially even, uh, potentially even partial results just given their presentation and it, it's as if they've been miraculously chew.

Um, there's also really good stories about people [00:14:00] with, uh, arthritis. That's a great example because a lot of times we think that. Worn down joint is what causes pain. Just hold the car, which is worn away. But really it's the functioning. It's how the cells in the area function and what signals do they send and, and how do they operate and are they doing the job that they're supposed to.

So, PRP and what's, um, referred to as stem cell therapy, at least by layman's, also creates that. All of a sudden eye opening, oh my God, I had had symptoms yesterday and now I don't. Um, what did you do? What happened when, when really a, a lot of this is just, um, the, the body is relatively capable of addressing.

Many things. It just needs a little bit of [00:15:00] push in the right direction and that's where things like regenerative medicine or other ultrasound guided procedures can come in. 

Speaker 6: Michael, if I ask somebody, have you ever heard of platelet rich plasma? Not a lot of people have actually heard of it. Um, some have, but a lot haven't.

Can you say anything as to why people don't know more about these therapies? And then also describe a little bit about like PRP and stem cells. How you do them. And also I think you, we talked about shockwave therapy as well. I think people would like to know all three of those. 

Speaker 7: You would expect treatments like these, especially treatments that are so effective to be relatively well known.

And I think that a, a big factor in what is preventing them from breaking out, so to speak, and maybe being more popular and more utilized is. Really the, uh, the insurance coverage of them likely [00:16:00] because that's, that's a big deciding factor for, for many patients when, you know, they're thinking, should I get treated or should I go to this patient or not?

And even though they've been around for over 30 years now and used in high level athletics in the very beginning, it is. Becoming more popular and more commonplace. But, um, I, I do think that it's not as accessible and that's probably limiting the spread and the knowledge of it. Uh, but it is amazing. I kind of lump those treatments that you mentioned together in a, in a term that I call regenerative medicine.

That's how many people refer to it. This would be regenerative medicine, specifically in the musculoskeletal field. And, uh, the way it works is it, it's an [00:17:00] injury, so to speak, and the body responds as it normally responds to injuries except normally amplified if you have tissue that is damaged. The sprained ankle is a good example.

The cells in that area, release proteins that recruit the immune system. They recruit your local stem cells, what's just already in the body, and they're guided to the area and they begin to work. And you can initiate that by introducing your own growth factors and proteins in a more concentrated manner or maybe some, some cells, or.

Triggering the cells that are already there to release their own proteins. But that's what happens is just the, uh, the signaling of the body that you're harnessing with either platelets that have the, the proteins and the growth factors and the cytokines that we use. Or [00:18:00] the cells cellular therapy that do the same thing, or even the sound waves.

It just causes the release in situ You right there in the tissue. 

Speaker 6: Hmm. Yeah, I, I, my, my experiences, uh, has been, has been phenomenal, um, with all of the above. Um, I'm actually the PRP that I had, uh, I think it took a little while, um, actually, and I hadn't reported back to you, but, uh, my neck is, is still like.

I have, I have damage to my neck. I've got things going on that are, I've got, you know, my, my vertebrae is literally shifted, uh, in, in a direction that it shouldn't be too far. But I have noticed, I feel it is more stable. It takes me, uh, it's harder for me to recreate the, the, the peripheral neuropathy that I've had with it.

I can, but it's a lot harder. I have to actually [00:19:00] like really kind of. Do a lot extra to, to make those symptoms appear. And I don't know if that's because of the PRPI have to assume because I haven't really changed anything else. It's takes, it takes some time for the body to heal. And I guess, is that what you would anticipate It can take longer than, you know, just a week or two?

It can take four or six, even eight, eight weeks as I've experienced. 

Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good thing to keep in mind. It is a delayed process. It is a amazing process, but it takes time. You're definitely not gonna get up off of the table after say, PRP or cellular therapy and immediately feel better. In fact, you'll pretty quickly, you'll probably feel worse.

There's usually a degree of inflammation that tends to occur as the body is releasing those proteins and activating the immune system. But then after that calms down, there's even gonna be a period [00:20:00] where you might wonder, well, why did I do that? Because I feel the exact same as I did before, and that's normal.

It just takes time to ramp up. It takes time for your body to respond. You know, you've been on the order of months at times. Average around four, six weeks for people to really just begin to notice things. 

Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Uh, and you know, another another thing I was really impressed in working with you is just the way that you take time.

I, that's something I think all of us are just so frustrated with, with the current medical, um, practice. Traditional allopathic medicine. It's just like you get five minutes with a doctor or they're like. Typing on the keyboard the entire time, and, and you don't really get to see them or actually, and look them in the eyes and tell them what's going on.

Um, and my experience with you is like we had a, a, you know, calm, collected, thoughtful, uh, dialogue where I [00:21:00] felt like we were a team and trying to figure out what was next. There was no pressure and like, um. You, you, you tended toward, uh, wanting a conservative approach first and seeing how things would go before you suggested something more invasive.

And I, I really appreciated that. And, um, I guess, what do you, what would you say for the, the kind of style that you have as a practitioner? Uh, because it seems much different to me than. Almost any doctor I've ever seen. 

Speaker 7: Yeah. I, I am afforded the luxury to kind of craft that myself, since it is my own practice.

And other solo practitioners and people who are on their own probably are, are doing the same thing where you, they're, they're not scheduling 30 patients in a day. You know, they make sure that each patient, especially a [00:22:00] new patient, has time to be heard. Thoroughly examined, educated, uh, but I think maybe heard is one of the most important things for people.

Just giving them a chance to, to elaborate and say what's going on is something that's been strangely lacking. And, uh, you know, patients express true appreciation, but, you know, just spend a little time with them and be more of a, uh. I mean, a, a real person sitting across from you rather than, you know, maybe the separation that could occur sometimes mentally between a, a practitioner and patient or client.

So I, I think that's very important. I value that a lot. I, I am in, in my practice, especially maybe compared to a patient. I suppose I am [00:23:00] the expert, but. I, I don't want it to appear that I am, you know, set aside different, better than it's, it's just good to approach patients on equal footing, I think. And, uh, the, uh, the belief as an osteopath that the body can heal itself also helps guide a lot of my practice and, and how I do things and the order I do things.

You mentioned being conservative. And I think that's important. I, I see way too many patients who end up having what seems to be a totally unnecessary surgery, and that's just sad because then there's other consequences from that, and the first issue wasn't even addressed. So I find people to be heard. I like to take my time.

I'm very thorough. I am very conservative. And, [00:24:00] and careful because, uh, patients are devoting a lot to these treatments. Um, it's, it's their time. It's their money. I, I really just wanna be respectful of that. 

Speaker 6: Yeah. Thank you. A, uh, I know from my perspective, I definitely, definitely appreciate, uh, that level of, of caringness and thoughtfulness that, that you put into it.

'cause I, I certainly, uh, felt it and that's a. Of course why I, I love, uh, sending people in need, uh, over to you. 'cause I, I know that I, I can trust that you're gonna do a great job on their behalf. So, you know, you hear about regenerative agriculture and there's this movement toward things being, uh, regenerative.

Don't know that even myself, I don't know, I kind of have an idea of what that means. From your perspective, what does, what does regenerative medicine mean to you, and where, I guess, where do you see that heading down the road? 

Speaker 7: Regenerative medicine is [00:25:00] maybe applied to a, a variety of, uh, uh, subspecialties.

Mine being specifically the, the musculoskeletal, which I can address, and, uh, it, it may be a little bit of a misleading name.

Regenerate new fresh tissue. And a lot of times that is the case, not all the time, but really, I, I would think of it as returning the body to more normal functioning. Some things do heal, literally. Soft tissue, connected tissue, tendons, ligaments, muscle, um, even nerves sometimes. But, uh, other things. You're not literally getting a new fresh knee, for example, if we're attacking osteoarthritis.

But just because you have what has [00:26:00] maybe been described as bone on bone doesn't mean that it has to hurt. So regenerative medicine is the establishing normal function. In some cases actually regenerating tissue. Um. But the baseline mechanism of it all is a response on the cellular level, on a, on the cellular mechanisms so that the body is doing what it's supposed to do.

And you could think of it as they return to normal or what you might call homeostasis balance. 

Speaker 6: So when we think about, um, the kinds of. Uh, when we think about the kinds of conditions or like injuries and symptoms that would be applicable for coming in to see a [00:27:00] practitioner like yourself, is, are there kinds of, do, do you, do you have good success with some kinds of conditions and maybe not as good with others?

It is a pretty 

Speaker 7: broad range of diagnoses that my treatments could be applied to. Uh, it, it's hard to make overarching statements, but generally the more common pathologies, at least in uh, musculoskeletal system, arthritis, uh, ligament damage, they can do really well in certain cases, depending on the cause, nerve problems can do extent.

In other cases where somebody's issues are due to say, lifestyle or other comorbidities, other medical [00:28:00] comorbidities and metabolic syndrome, that's gonna be very difficult, and that's essentially fighting an uphill battle where the, the causes have not been addressed. A patient is really just looking for symptom relief, so those patients don't do as well.

And I guess it kind of boils down to how healthy are you? You know, when you're operating the way that you should, when you're taking care of yourself, at least the best you can in today's society, then you're really setting yourself up. A good outcome for a positive response from treatment. Um, and, and, and those who don't can still see good improvement, but it might not be as much as they wont, it might not last as long as [00:29:00] they want.

It's if. Maybe boiled it down again. It's hard to treat somebody without their help. 

Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's, I think that's sort of, uh, the paradigm that we're in now is, is basically where, uh, we've got to, we've got to become more responsible for our health because we're finding that traditional medicine actually can't really.

Help keep us healthy. They can help, uh, once we're sick, but they fail miserably at, at, at keeping us healthy, and we're really responsible for that by our food choices, by how well we're sleeping, managing stress, and of course, movement. I was reading something the other day about, uh, longevity 'cause I'm kind of a geek on longevity and I kind of, kind of like, it's like my hobby, uh, to, uh, watch what the bio biohackers are doing.

And um, you know, like two of the best indicators for longevity is having a high VO two max, which is basically your ability [00:30:00] to utilize oxygen. That and grip strength. Well, those two things speak to. Mobility because you obviously can't, uh, increase your VO two max very well if you're not, um, you know, able to, to move because you can't do the exercises that produce the, the benefit.

Um. Same with the grip strength thing. If you, um, aren't mobile enough to do strength training, um, you're not gonna have probably a very good grip strength. Well, those obvi obviously relate to longevity. Uh, and so, yeah, like do you do any, um, coaching around movement or how to do some of these things or that something you outsource?

Or how do you 'cause, 'cause it's obvious that you can do a treatment but. There's all these other components that are, should be done side by side for best results. 

Speaker 7: They should. And in my line of work, especially the strengthening, so most patients I end up [00:31:00] recommending to pursue some sort of formal physical therapy, if not doing something on their own.

And that's really the patient's choice and I. Constantly on a soap box of strength training. If I, I talk a lot about healthy lifestyle, all the different components, but you know, two things that I focus on heavily are the strength training and also the mental aspect of things. So I try to give as much guidance as I can on, uh, what people can do.

And at the very least. See that nagging voice that's izing. This is important. In fact, this is one of the most important healthy behaviors that you could be incorporating into your life. So you know, that is, might as well be a own repeat for some of my patient visits.[00:32:00] 

I just believe in it so very much it, it couldn't be more important. 

Speaker 6: Everything I've studied around longevity says that if you're strong and have proper, uh, uh, body mass, especially as you you age, um, you're gonna be much, much, much better off and able to handle all kinds of, uh, conditions that come your way, uh, better than somebody who's not.

Let's wrap this up with a few, what I call rapid fire, uh, questions here. These are short answer form. Uh, there's three of them. I'm gonna answer ask you the first one here. So one movement. If you had to choose one movement or exercise, everyone over 40 should do. What would be that one thing? 

Speaker 7: If I had to pick one, it would probably be the squat.

Just a extremely functional movement strengthens a large portion of the body, especially the lower body, which is very important, especially. As you get older, 40 [00:33:00] is not too bad, but you know, balance is, becomes an issue and a lot of balance is just an issue of strength. 

Speaker 6: And yeah, I think I remember reading something about hormones too, being impacted when you, lots of, lots of cool things happen when you, when you, when you squat.

So, yeah. Good. One, one, uh, one thing you wish everyone knew about pain. I like 

Speaker 7: to really emphasize that. Pain is not just a, uh, a matter of damaged tissue. I think that's a, a great thing, a good take home point for people. Just because you see something on imaging or MRI that is abnormal defined by the radiologist who's reading it, doesn't mean that you have to have pain.

Really, it comes down to, uh, function. We touched on this a little bit, but. I think that that is one thing I wish people understood a lot more, as well as.[00:34:00] 

Psychological side of pain. Now you, a newer model of dealing with or treating pain is the bio psychosocial. So you're taking in the body, the, the bio, the biology, but also the psychology and the social side of things. How you see yourself, how other people knew you. 

Speaker 6: Yeah. That's a whole nother topic. Maybe for a future episode we can do the, uh, bio-psychosocial, um.

Uh, version of pain because that's pretty, pretty fascinating. You have two people with the exact same, uh, structural maybe damage, and yet, and one person's experiencing great pain and the other person has no pain. It's like, why? I, it doesn't, to me, my brain just can't wrap my head around that. Interesting.

Okay. Last one, one misconception about healing that you wish more people understood. So I think that 

Speaker 7: the, the biggest thing in, in that. Is that it [00:35:00] takes time. It's not ins instant. We need to be patient. We're a, uh, very, give it to me now reward driven battle. And it's, it's hard to wait and see the light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak, but you do need to.

It's just impossible for many things to recover overnight, but they still can just need to, to realize your movement in the right direction and be okay with it. 

Speaker 6: That is an awesome way to, to end this show. Thank you so much to Dr. Pinkston. I really appreciate you coming on here and your time. Thank you. 

Speaker 7: Uh, it's been a pleasure.

Thanks, Travis.

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